mostly about shirts

[freckles_and_doubt]

The other day someone told me about a friend of theirs who is an older man, devoutly Christian and therefore frustratedly and conflictedly unable to do anything positive about the fact that he's also gay. Apparently he has seen Brokeback Mountain twenty-seven times since it opened on circuit here. He goes to see it every afternoon, and cries a lot.

This is a level of investment in a film that I personally only associate with the madder, more geeky fringes of Star Wars and LotR fandom. In this very different context, it's probably the saddest thing I've heard in ages.

In other shirt news, I have finally worked out who the much-drooled-over Sawyer is in Lost. I'm sorry, ladies, I don't get it. No amount of pretty-boy de-shirtage is ever going to make him into anything other than a total dickhead.

Comments

[pinkthulhu.livejournal.com]

His bluff Flashman-style arrogance and caddish behaviour grow on you though... :)

Who would you prefer to share a remote island with then? Jack? Jin? Boone? The hobbit guy from LotR? ;P

[(Anonymous)]

I give you my father: very actively gay and very actively Catholic. In the interests of reconciling the two, he has gone so far as to study ancient Greek, the better to enable him to research homosexuality in the early church. (Not such a big deal then, apparently.) I reckon any degree of perspective on "the church" as a human institution should enable a person to resolve their conflicts, but then what do I know, I have no faith and am not gay.

And stories like that make me hate the church a lot.

Also, I'm not a huge Sawyer fan (his looks don't particularly do it for me), but I am a huge fan of men taking their shirts off. Dickheads or not. Hey, his character is made up, but the torso is real. *happy sigh*

scroob

[extemporanea.livejournal.com]

I never liked Flashman much, actually. I loved the warped history in the stories, but Flashman I always wanted to kick. Currently I think I'd most cheerfully share the island with the doctor, who is attractive in a sensible, down-to-earth sort of way. *kicks bad-boy fixation audibly, and hard*

silly

[(Anonymous)]

You should check out the 'Greek' boyfriend in 'Sisterhood of the Traveling Pants' if you want some eye-candy - mmmmmmm :>

Thak.

[pinkthulhu.livejournal.com]

Lol. :)

Josh Holloway?

[bumpycat.livejournal.com]

I looked him up in IMDB, and am still mystified. Looks like a non-entity to me (then again, I haven't watched Lost, and am unlikely to get excited by men taking their shirts off :P ).

Sawyer

[(Anonymous)]

But I thought you liked total dickheads?! :)

[ex-wytchfyn.livejournal.com]

Poor bastard. Sounds to me like the kind of dying-love homage so endlessly repeated in viewings of Titanic, except, cruelly, you don't grow out of it.

Re: Sawyer

[extemporanea.livejournal.com]

Hey! So over that! Like I said above, kicking the bad-boy fixation. And besides, they haven't all been total dickheads. The ones who are are simply horribly memorable.

And well might you cower beneath the mantle of anonymity, rude person!

[extemporanea.livejournal.com]

It's incredibly cruel - at least if LotR and Star Wars offer repetitive enactment of something, it's closure and achievement. To bury yourself so narcissistically in a repeated re-enactment of the tragedy of your own life is enormously sad and futile. It suggests that you can see no possible solution to the problem, so that the vicarious motif of its endless rehearsal is actually desirable rather than depressing. Bloody world we live in.

[(Anonymous)]

I too think Jack's probably the most appealing, really, but he just takes himself so durn *seriously*. Sawyer has a sense of humour. Much better.

Re: Sawyer

[(Anonymous)]

Didn't mean to cower, I just forgot to sign my name :)

I too, typically fancy bad boys in fiction. I can't explain it but I'm totally consistent. In the first screen shot of Sawyer he was slouching and smoking (tv code for "bad boy") and it was lust at first sight. But it is a harmless fixation so I'm not trying to kick it, and he could never replace Spike.

Anyway, I am far more sensible in real life.

Lara