They're both maddening because there's so much there that's good and interesting and creative, and borders on brilliant mythmaking, but I think for female viewers there's often a faint discomfort. I must re-watch Doctor Who, I think, and look at exactly how far Moffat's sensibility extends beyond his episodes. I also have the faint niggling feeling that Russell Davies doesn't like women very much - I'll never forgive him for what he did to Donna.